that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to america that he is ready to be vice president and president if need be. and he absolutely did that. he was strong, he was resolute, and he stood up to very childish attacks from joe biden. some of the attacks were disappoint willing, the laughter, the smirking. it was very unvice presidential and unprofessional and at the end if you noticed when it was time to give their closing remarks, joe biden did not thank paul ryan, but paul ryan thanked joe biden. so on the overall picture, paul ryan did it great. does it help the momentum, it does. does it help democrats, it does not. democrats are still struggling take. >> julian, would you at least concede that biden was perhaps unprofessional with the laughter and some of the way he carried himself? >> i think joe biden did yesterday what he needed to do, which he needed to stop the momentum that romney had in the one bad week that the obama campaign has had since the debate last week. and i think biden did that.